Milly-

Of course, it’s not like Democrats are blameless here. If Obama showed more resolve, and if Reid & Pelosi showed more spine, we probably wouldn’t be where we are now. And even if all 3 of them were tougher, they’d still have to wrestle with all these Blue Dog ConservaDems that are bought and paid for by the HMOs and PhRMA.

Still, Colin has a valid point on the Republicans. With them spending every second of every day delaying the bill to the point of death (since they want to kill the bill regardless of what it really is), that just makes Reid’s job and Pelosi’s job that much harder. And with ConservaDems like Bart Stupak in the House and Joe Lieberman in the Senate constantly threatening to join the GOP in a “united front opposition”, they’re constantly in a bind.

So honestly, I think the health care mess is more complicated than either you or Colin think it is. Again, the Democrats aren’t without fault here (especially the ConservaDems!)… But it’s not like we should let the GOP completely off the hook, either.

Oh, come on, ColinFromLasVegas… enough with blaming the GOP. Personally, I despise nearly everything Republicans stand for. But after the Democrats won the White House and the majority in both the House and the Senate, it was time for them to roll up their sleeves and get done what they promised to do during their campaigns.

So, enough with the finger-pointing. Be a mensch and admit that the Democrats who were elected to office are caving like a sinkhole.

Milly (registered Democrat since 1980)

Reid made a major mistake in listening to Obama and his request to show “Holy Joe” Loserman mercy. he should have just kicked out “Traitor Joe” then & there. But now, I guess we just have to fly by the seat of our pants & hope that there’s still time to save health care from the ConservaDems and GOoPers (thanks for the reminder, Colin) who want to steal it away from us.

It’s so easy to point fingers at Senator Reid, Senator Lieberman, and other potential Democrats who may vote down important stuff in this health care reform bill. When any bill shows up, there are always dissenters within the ranks. It’s just natural.

But what is overlooked in this is the Grand Obstructionist Party (GOP).

The fingers don’t seem to be pointed at any RepubliCANNOTs. It should be pointed out that ANYTHING dealing with this health care reform has been met with stalling, disinformation, filibustering, organizing fearmongered teabaggers with mispelt signs and just generally no, no, no, hell no and complete and utter whining, cajoling and complaining by the Grand Opposition Party (GOP).

THEY are clearly the problem. THEY act like they are from another planet, bent on world destruction or something.

All they want is to be in power. And if thousands of Americans have to die every year because health care reform didn’t happen, it don’t make no difference to them. They could care less. They just WANT to be in power. Period. They want to call the shots. They want to go back to the excesses and idiocies of the President Bush/Vice President Cheney era. Nothing else matters. Attack. Attack. Attack. That’s all they know. Spend minimal time doing their job. Because just saying no don’t take much studying or research. But after the session is over? BAM! That’s when they are spurred into action, mad scrambles for microphones and cameras to spout out their blathering nonsense complete with no way to resolve anything to anyone that has half a brain that will listen to it.

It’s all so predictable. But it is being paid attention to. And the American voters WILL have their say in 2010 and boot most of them out on sidewalks.

As far as health care reform goes, as of right now, I’ll take anything that’s approved. Just so we can make the RepublicaNOs open their mouth wide, make them say ahhhh and shove it sideways down their throats and shut them up.